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from abc news, "this week with george stephanopoulos" begins now. and we begin with all the latest on the ebola crisis as that patient in dallas struggles right now. had so much fear the epidemic will spread right here in america. look inside that plane landing at newark, airport yesterday. homeland security on board after officials in hazmat suits removed a man with flu-like symptoms. it turned out to be one of many false alarms being checked out by the cdc. director tom frieden here today along with dr. besser here and ryan owens starts us off from dallas. good morning, ryan. >> reporter: george, good morning to you. thomas eric duncan has now been at this dallas hospital for a full week, and this morning, his condition is worse than ever. the hospital will only say the liberian national is in critical condition. his family says much more. his nephew tells abc news duncan is not conscious. he's so heavily sedated. he's gone into kidney failure and is on dialysis.
the ebola victim also cannot breathe on his own and is on a ventilator. duncan's girlfriend and her family, we blurred their faces to protect their privacy, are having their temperature monitored by cdc disease detectives twice a day. so far so good. >> we are confident that none of those with definite contact had any symptoms related to ebola. none of them had fever. >> reporter: the cdc says nine people in dallas are considered at high risk for infection, those four family members plus a medical personnel. approximately 40 other people who may have had contact with him are considered low risk. the hospital here may have missed the signs and sent duncan home after his first visit, but now everyone else seems determined not to. >> we are not facing just a health crisis, we are facing a national security priority. >> reporter: the result, a lot of false alarms. two suspected cases around washington, d.c. have tested
negative, and saturday cdc investigators met a flight from brussels at newark international after a patient from liberia got sick on the flight. fellow flyers thought it might be ebola. it wasn't. ebola symptoms usually show up eight to ten days after exposure. remember, duncan has been here for seven days, so you do the math. right now is the really anxious time for folks here in dallas. george. >> okay, ryan, thanks. let's get more on this now from the mayor of dallas, mike rawlings. thanks for joining us. i know you're right outside the hospital where mr. duncan is being treated right now. what more can you tell us about his condition? >> all i know, that he's been downgraded to critical and churches all over dallas will be praying for him this morning. our focus is on his contacts and really the safety of dallas. dallas is safe and dallas is calm, but this is very serious and we're taking it as such. >> and, mayor, you know there have been some complaints from the family about how they
were treated early on, whether they got all the information they needed. are you confident now that they do know everything that's going on and they're being cared for in the proper way? >> i am. i met them personally on friday. we moved them to a secluded safe area where the young child can play basketball and get out in the yard. we've got two people with them all the time taking care of their needs, and we're working with the other contacts to make sure they're there, as well. i mean, that they're taken care of as well with all their questions are answered. i will say working with at least five different major jurisdictions in a process like this, you get moving a little slower than you want. i would like to have done it faster, but i think we're up to speed and everybody knows what's happening now. >> pretty confident now there will not be any other cases of ebola or can't you say that yet? >> i really -- we really can't say that.
i believe that if there is, we will have those contacts isolated the way that our plan is in place. we've gone from a number of nearly 100 down to just under 50 and we're playing a man-to-man defense, if you will, in a compassionate way, but we've got each individual really kind of focused on another individual to make sure that we monitor their temperature every two days and then we're getting out and just living our lives in dallas. the state fair opened. we had the biggest opening in history, and i went to an oktoberfest a mile away from where this happened and people are out all over the place so i think dallas sites are confident and we are focused on what we need to be focused on. >> and what do you say to parents sending their kids back to school tomorrow? >> they are, and we plan for full attendance. the school system did a great job. parents didn't freak out as far as i'm concerned.
we only had a ten-point drop in attendance, and the students that were kept out, we've got them homeschooling and have got a great education package in place for them with one-to-one tutoring. >> thanks very much for your time this morning. our chief health and medical editor dr. richard besser just back from his second mission to the hot zone spending the the last week on the ground in liberia tracking the desperate effort to saves lives and keep this epidemic from spreading even more. >> nice to be home after a really long journey. when my passport went through passport control, it flagged me for additional screening, so they took me into a back room and asked if i had contact with anyone with ebola. asked how i was feeling. i said i was feeling fine. they said, welcome home. 4500 mile ras way from the chaos in the west africa hot zone where the day before we left, we encountered a stunning moment on the street. workers coming to remove the body of an ebola victim. then watch this. >> he's not dead.
they were wrapping him up to take him away but he's alive. he's moving his arm. they almost took him away to the crematorium. i've seen health workers stretched to the limits from the streets to the ebola wards working valiantly to save lives and stop the spread of the disease. >> we've been here a week. it's time to go home. now the airports are the new front line. and with so much ebola here in liberia, people want to know can you really keep it from leaving? i want to see how they're trying. driving in guards check my temperature first. fever is one of the first signs of ebola then a detailed questionnaire. fever, no. headache, no. vomiting, no. since i was fully covered in the ebola wards, nothing that we did as journalists here put us in the high risk category, but no one can be completely safe. american freelance cameraman ashoka mukpo contracted ebola now being flown to a hospital isolation unit in nebraska for treatment. back to that questionnaire where the information is key, this is a really good screening
questionnaire, but it's only going to work if people read it carefully and tell the truth. eric duncan, the liberian, now in critical condition in the dallas hospital did not. he had been in close contact with an ebola victim days before boarding a plane from this airport. and he didn't tell authorities. before our departure, another checkpoint. a visual inspection to see if i looked sick. my temperature taken a second time. lots of checkpoints to make sure that people who are sick are not leaving the country. if you look sick, you have a fever or you check yes on the questionnaire, you're not getting out. we're given the all-clear. on our first flight out of liberia to europe, some flight attendants wear masks and gloves. there's no signs here with information saying anything about ebola. but in many airports like at our layover in brussels, surprisingly, it seems to be business as usual. >> and dr. besser joins us now. welcome back. >> thank you. >> first thing people want to know is it safe for you to be here? >> yeah, i mean that's an important question.
it really is. the thing about ebola is you cannot transmit the disease until you have symptoms, so, yeah, abc news talked with cdc, went through the recommendations. i'm monitoring my temperature. i took it this morning. if i develop a fever, then i would get care but even with early fever, i wouldn't be able two spread the disease. >> talk about the kind of precautions you took in africa and on your way back. >> yeah, i mean, the pieces people saw on tv didn't show those precautions. they saw me suited up when i was in the ward and there there were people watching all my interactions to make sure i didn't do anything that put me at risk but every part of my body was covered but the scenes on the street after the camera went off spraying down with bleach, spraying my feet with bleach. the first time i shook anyone's hand was when i arrived in newark airport and it felt odd because you don't touch anyone. >> in liberia, no touching at all. >> not at all. >> and the scenes you brought back, so devastating right now. are they making any progress in liberia in sierra leone? slowing down this spread? >> you know, it was different.
it felt different when i was there in august to how it felt this week. there's more international aid ramping up. they have a strategy. they're organizing these things. i interviewed the president and she seemed to be in charge and in control and has the way but it's a long way from strategy to getting this totally done. there's a lot more work that has to happen. >> and your single biggest concern has to be the rate of spread. each infected person still having contact with two, maybe three more. >> yeah, that's the problem. until they get enough treatment units up and people want to get in there and they're being taken care of, they stay in the community and spreading disease. the 17 treatment units the u.s. has promised, none of them have even arrived or started to be built yet and time matters. i'm concerned things are not moving fast enough. >> you sounded the alarm early on the need for a military effort and president obama announced it afterwards. what's the most important thing that needs to be done right now? >> right now you have the advance team from the military scoping out the mission, but i don't get the sense of urgency in how fast this has to happen. every week that this goes on,
you're having an exponential growth of this epidemic. we have to move faster and do more. we have to get medical providers there who are going to care for these patients. >> okay, dr. rich besser, thanks. great to have you back. let's take this now to dr. tom frieden, the director for the centers for disease control. you just heard dr. besser right there. is he correct? >> well, absolutely. the virus is moving so fast but our response is moving very fast, as well. the defense department is on the ground. they're working with 135 of the cdc staff who are there and working with usaid and others and the challenge of putting up a treatment unit isn't easy. it's not a question about construction. it's about training, supervision, supply chains and all of that is moving, but we wish it would move faster but it's moving faster than it was a week or two ago. >> i want to get back to that in a minute but let's talk about the situation in the united states now. we heard that a patient treated in nebraska for ebola, dr. rich sacra, is back in the hospital in massachusetts. what can you tell us about that? >> it's extraordinarily unlikely that it would be a recurrence of ebola. we've never seen that.
but we're not going to take chances so we'll test and we'll see. time will tell. >> and the situation in dallas right now, nine people considered at relatively high risk coming in direct contact with mr. duncan. anything more on their condition right now and whether they've developed any symptoms whatsoever? >> the last we've heard, no one has developed symptoms of those who had contact. but we're going to check every single day because some people did have, particularly family members, a lot of contact when he was sick. and we know that his condition is quite critical so we're really hoping for his recovery. >> is there anything more you can do for him right now? >> right now the best thing to do is do is that meticulous kind of care of supporting his fluid and electrolytes doing everything possible and that's really the kind of thing that we want to get up and running in africa, as well. supporting fluid balance and helping people survive not just to reduce deaths but so that more people will come in for care and it will be less spread in the community.
>> we saw that breakdown in communication at the hospital in dallas. are you confident that hospitals now across the country are prepared, have all the tools, have all the information they need to deal with this? of course, i know you're getting so many more reports now coming in every single day. >> well, the way to stop this in its tracks, which i am certain we will do in the u.s., is when there's a case to do contact tracing and follow-up as is being done in dallas and to have an index of suspicion so that if there's any concern that someone might have ebola, immediately assess, isolate and if appropriate test and that's what we're doing. we expect to see more concerns, more rumors and more possibilities of cases that require investigation. that's what we're doing. >> but no sign of any new cases right now? >> no. we've had no other case, in fact, of the well over 100 cases we've been consulted about, the only one that staff told me, you know, we're really worried about this one was the patient in dallas even before his test result came back. >> we saw that newest flight
scare at newark airport yesterday. more calls for more drastic cutbacks on travel restrictions on travel for many including some prominent republicans who are considering runs for the white house. want to play them. take a listen. >> it's just common sense. why wouldn't we do everything we can to protect our folks in america to stop these flights. >> we also have to be concerned about 3,000 soldiers getting back on a ship. can you imagine if a whole ship full of our soldiers gets ebola? >> the question that i think a lot of people are going to have on their minds is what do you do with a person who is going to get on a plane in west africa and come to america? should there be a quarantine time period or something like that? >> what's your answer to that? >> i think first and foremost our top priority is the safety of americans. and we'll consider any options to increase that safety. we have to recognize that try as we might, until the outbreak is controlled in africa, we can't get the risk here to zero. but we'll absolutely look at any suggestion that's workable and that wouldn't backfire. we don't want to do something that inadvertently increases our risk by making it harder to stop the outbreak there because if it
spreads more widely throughout other countries in africa, that will be even more of a risk to us here. >> are you considering any new measures? >> we'll look at all the suggestions that have come in to see what would work, what's workable and what wouldn't have unintended consequences of increasing our risk. our core mission is to work 24/7 to protect americans and that's what we're doing here. >> you know, finally the researcher who first discovered the virus, dr. peter piat, warned this week that there's a very real danger, what he calls a complete breakdown in parts of west africa, other researchers suggesting the possibility of a global pandemic. how real is that threat? >> first off, here in the u.s. i remain quite confident we will not have a widespread outbreak. we will stop it in its tracks because we've got infection control in hospitals and public health that tracks and isolates people if they get symptoms. in africa, the story is different. we did help nigeria, lagos stop an importation. they had one case. they ended up having to do 19,000 home visits
and they had more than a thousand health workers involved. we had to bring our own own staff, a dozen of them and 40 of our trained epidemiologists from around nigeria to help with that response, and they look like they've stopped the outbreak there. but that kind of intensive response is hard to marshal everywhere. and i'm quite concerned. the longest this goes on in these three west african countries, the greater the possibility that other countries in africa are going to have to fight this on their territory, as well. >> so much danger still out there. dr. frieden, thanks very much for your time this morning. up next, inside the minds of school shooters inspired by columbine. can they help us prevent the next tragedy? it's an abc news investigation. and we're counting down to the midterms. the roundtable will weigh in on nate silver's latest analysis and how the war against isis is topic "a" on the airwaves. we'll be back in just two minutes. "this week with george stephanopoulos" brought to you by bdo. [ male announcer ] we all think about life insurance.
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today's "closer look," the legacy of columbine. ever since that mayhem 15 years ago, we've seen more and more of these mass shootings, many by troubled young men inspired by the columbine killers. in this brand-new abc news investigation, pierre thomas and his team dig into what drives these boys to unlock the mystery of why they snap and what can be done to stop them. >> i am a teacher at columbine high school. there is a student here with a gun. >> reporter: columbine high school, april 20th, 1999. >> shots fired at columbine high school. >> reporter: its deadly legacy still echoes today. >> active shooter sparks middle school. they have at least two down. >> reporter: october 21st, 2013, a nevada boy only 12 shoots and kills a teacher, wounds two students then takes his own life. police find pictures of the columbine killers on the boy's cell phone. [ sirens ] april 9th, 2014, franklin regional high school near pittsburgh, chaos as a 16-year-old boy goes on a
stabbing rampage injuring 22. may 1st, police say they stop a minnesota boy, 17, from bombing and gunning down his classmates. here he is testing his homemade explosives. all these cases share one common trait, all the suspects were inspired by or somehow tied to the columbine tragedy when eric harris and dylan klebold hunted down and killed 12 students and a teacher in cold blood. abc news identified 17 school attacks and 37 serious threats linked to columbine since the massacre. among them, the slaughters of virginia tech and newtown. at least ten of the cases came in the last year alone as this disturbing phenomenon seems to be intensifying. in pasadena, california, at the start of this school year, two students accused of planning another school massacre. >> they just wanted to kill as many people as possible. >> reporter: a three-month abc news investigation spanning the country uncovered chilling
evidence, video diaries, journals, police interrogations with a columbine killers often emerged. here's that minnesota suspect talking to police in may. >> my number one idol is eric harris. i think i just see myself in him. >> reporter: this 16-year-old tampa student was also allegedly planning a murderous nightmare. >> i'm a high school shooter in tampa, florida -- well, i will be. columbine, virginia tech, none of them will beat me. i'll kill them all. i can't wait to die, dude. >> reporter: perhaps no case demonstrates the columbine obsession more than the 2006 shooting spree of this sadistic north carolina killer. he convinced a family member to drive him to columbine. >> columbine high school right there. and you see over there, that's the library. that's where everything took place right there. >> reporter: he bought the same guns. >> this, my friends, is what eric harris used in the
columbine massacre. >> reporter: he even dressed like him. >> operation columbine is under way. >> reporter: tragically it was more than just playacting. the suspect shot and killed his father, then opened fire at his high school wounding two students. >> remember columbine. >> reporter: he was arrested in this t-shirt. some of the killers and columbine worshipers are mentally ill. some want attention. others feel slighted and have specific grievances that spiral out of control. >> they're looking for things that align with whatever their perceived grievance is. they have taken an unusual fascination in columbine and other large-scale horrific attacks. >> the modern era of these events really began with columbine. >> reporter: the copycat phenomenon is real. >> they're looking to those attacks for inspiration and sometimes it turns to a hero worship. >> reporter: these men and women dream of unspeakable carnage. those who have actually attacked
wounded and killed, of course, innocents who should never be forgotten. in the cases we studied 66 killed, 59 wounded. how can this be stopped or at least slowed? we sought answers from dylan cossey, now 21, who at 14 was arrested for allegedly discussing a plan to attack his high school outside of philadelphia. cossey told me there was no specific plot. and that he does not believe he would have carried out an attack but he admits to fantasizing about acts of violence against peers who had been taunting him. >> what really drew me in to that dark path that i was on was that sense of hopelessness. >> reporter: right. >> and you start to associate with people who may discuss those kind of violent acts because they're the only people that at the time you feel that understand you. >> reporter: he began researching columbine. >> and when i had heard that these kids were bullied and that's why they did what they did, that's when the thought goes, i was bullied too. >> reporter: after being
arrested, cossey received years of court-ordered therapy. what would the dillon of today tell the dillon of seven years ago? >> i would probably tell that you're stronger than you think you are. you're not alone. there's more support out there for you than you could even think possible, that you can move forward beyond anything that you're going through and move ahead with your life to a better place than you thought you could. and pierre joins us now. a remarkable report right there. this phenomenon so real. the big question, what can be done to stop it? >> well, one of the things law enforcement is looking at is trying to get mentally ill people more support. also, to do something about bullying and to identify children who are struggling who have these dark thoughts that may not have manifested itself until the last moment. >> when they go down the rabbit hole on the internet you need a counter. >> we spoke to that young man. he said when he started researching columbine, he said
it would have been great if something else popped up to say, this is not the way, that you don't have to go to acts of violence, but the thing that struck me this is a real phenomenon. it seems to be intensifying and it's happening out there right now. >> thanks for bringing us your report. pierre thomas, thanks very much. coming up, the roundtable here to weigh in on the scandal shaking up the secret service, all the week's politic, hillary clinton back on the campaign trail. can she help democrats in ways president obama cannot? her first big test for 2016 and we're back in just two minutes. ♪ [ male announcer ] over time, you've come to realize... [ starter ] ready! [ starting gun goes off ] [ male announcer ] it's less of a race... yeah! [ male announcer ] and more of a journey. keep going strong. and as you look for a medicare supplement insurance plan... expect the same kind of commitment you demand of yourself. aarp medicare supplement insurance plans insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. go long.
the director of the secret service resigned today. yeah. she says she's going to miss being in the white house but knowing the secret service, she should be able to come back any time she wants. the door is always open. >> how did this intruder get so far into the white house? don't they have guard dogs there? >> there were a lot of officers will and there was concern the dogs might attack them instead. [ laughter ] >> it sounds strange but it makes more sense when you find out a lot of secret service agents are cats. >> oh, that turmoil at the
secret service target practice for late night comics. not so funny at the white house where they forced out director julia pierson after tone deaf testimony on capitol hill. top lawmakers calling for a top to bottom shake-up. abc's chief white house correspondent jon karl has more on what it will take to restore confidence in the president's protectors. >> mr. reagan. >> reporter: in 1981 when secret service agent tim mccarthy took a bullet for ronald reagan, he was just doing his job. the bond between an agent and a president is built on trust and respect, and despite the agency's security lapses and scandals during his six years in the white house, president obama has always stood up for the secret service. you still have confidence in the secret service? >> the secret service does a great job. and i'm grateful for the sacrifices they make on my behalf and my family's behalf. >> do you solemnly -- >> reporter: a week ago came director julia pierson's disastrous appearance before congress. >> profoundly inaccurate, shocking, disgraceful. outrageous.
is there any one of those adjectives you disagree with? >> no. >> reporter: her resignation came after a series of new revelations first reported by "the washington post." the september 19th fence jumper armed with a knife made it much further into the white house than the secret service first said. back in november, 2011, it took the secret service five days to figure out that bullets had struck the white house. and last month, the final straw, the disclosure that a man with a criminal record carrying a gun got onto an elevator with the president during a trip to atlanta. how dark a moment is this? >> it's an embarrassment. it's not our brightest day, no question. but the secret service has a 150-year history and we don't go away. if there's something that's broken, we fix it. >> reporter: the once exalted agency is now facing intense scrutiny. for "this week," jonathan karl, abc news, the white house. >> let's talk about this now in the roundtable.
we're joined by peggy noonan from "the wall street journal." cnn's van jones and authors of "game change" and "double down," now managing editors of bloomberg politics, mark halperin and john heilemann. your new program "all due respect" begins tomorrow. mark, let me begin with you. the white house had no choice on pierson by the end of the day on tuesday but they did not want to push her out. >> they don't want -- no president wants to fight with the secret service, the pentagon, the intelligence agency, those are tough bureaucracies to take on. i would have preferred the president fire her rather than letting her quit. management -- it was his selection. when people say this is not really his problem, he picked her to run the secret service. it is unacceptable to the country. we all respect the individual agents and the job they do but it's unacceptable for them to be so weak. i would have preferred he fire her and announce big changes right away. >> especially, peggy noonan, after director pierson did not reveal that elevator incident when she spent a whole day testifying on capitol hill. >> it was so amazing.
she talked and talked in her testimony, then it ends then the "washington examiner" and "the washington post" come out with this information she somehow include to forgot to include the scariest incident, the president in the elevator, the guy jumping around with a gun and apparently an unfortunate past. one of the things it seems to me about the secret service story is that it's not only incredibly dangerous that the service unit isn't working, it's also got to be turned around quickly. this is not the kind of thing where you can say, you know, eight months from now we got to have it working. it's got to be working tomorrow morning and tonight. >> well, and, john heilemann, that is a good point. the white house now, this first review is only in the incidents that have been reported. it's not about the bottom review. >> right, and then you want to know, what other incidents there are? there was one much less serious reported at bloomberg last week where like someone got backstage at a congressional black caucus. >> thought he was a congressman. >> thought he was a congressman. there was confusion, eventually got him out. how that guy got back there, there's a lot of questions that
should be discuss ed in a top to bottom review that goes back historically a and question of how you get to the point where people have confidence in whatever the review finds which is that we'll never see the results even if it's successful even if it changes are made hard to demonstrate those going forward because the way it operates. >> van jones, another concern i was struck by this front page story in "the new york times" this week talks about blacks seeing flawed shield for president. they quote congressman emanuel cleaver saying, the secret service are trying to expose the president. you hear a lot of that from african-americans in particular, this concern that somehow the secret service isn't doing all they should be doing for their president. >> first of all, i think that is unfair. i did get a chance to work in the white house. i know how hard this job is. let's not forget, if you're a secret service person, you are one second away from history being made in a negative direction. the entire time you're there. a high stress job. people sign up for the job. we have to respect and appreciate them. but we have to remember the history of african-american leaders being killed in this
country whether you're talking about medgar evers, whether you're talking about malcolm x, martin luther king so there's a big sensitivity in the black community to the minute he first announced, every african-american that i knew above the age of 50 said he's going to be killed and so there's a huge concern that this level of shenanigans is going on. the last thing i want to say is this president has been threatened more than any other president and he deserves a better job. i wish that the secret service had only the job protecting the president, not all these others. >> peggy, this ties into the broader concern you wrote about, the title, bureaucratic brazenness, this lost of confidence in every official that comes out there and tries to calm us down. >> yeah, there's a sort of laxness one perceives that is going on in the executive agencies. to my mind as i look at this white house six years in, i see a great deal of articulate thought and a great deal of, you know, let's do some rah-rah, some build the spirit, some this
and that, but they don't seem that good at running the government, at running their own agencies. there have been a series of scandals as we know from early days of gsa to the veterans administration, which i think is a very tough mishandling by the government. this latest one is just the secret service, it feels like things aren't quite working anymore. >> how big an issue is competence in the midterms? >> i think it's a big issue if the republicans are able to make it one. because unhappiness with washington goes with both parties, but the president does run the executive branch. republicans i don't think have found a way to talk about it and connect it to the economy. so potentially a big issue and i think it should be something that should be discussed, but i haven't seen any republican candidate actually draw the lines together in a way that's relevant to voters. >> talk more about the midterms. got to take a quick break. back to analyze all the mid-terms and latest on 2016. does george w. bush really know what his brother jeb wants and
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colorado like this one in north carolina from tom tillis. >> while isis grew, obama kept waiting and kay hagan kept quiet. >> hagan fired back. >> i think north carolinians need to know his position and he is spineless in this regard. >> president obama talking about the economy and his agenda. >> i'm not on the ballot this fall but make no mistake these policies aren 0 the ballot. every single one of them. >> but was it smart to make the mid-terms an obama referendum? gop candidates pounced and new grandmother hillary clinton is hitting the trail. political reports that she'll barnstorm key midterm states like colorado, iowa and new hampshire when not baby-sitting charlotte. add it all up and nate silver's team at fivethirtyeight gives them a 59% of retaking the senate. down one point from last week. back with the roundtable, mark halperin, bloomberg, is nate silver right to move just an inch away from the republicans.
>> in the world of margins of err errors, i'm not sure that's much of a move. right now democrats must change the electorate and the reason you see president obama injecting his economic record in and see him attacking fox news in that same speech is because they need to change the electorate, they need to get the coalition of the ascended, obama voters who don't normally vote in the midterms to vote in north carolina and iowa. they got three of the six in the bag. >> republicans. >> republicans do and i think right now they would get the final three. kansas, though, is a huge problem for the republicans. they may end up netting five, even though they win six. >> pat roberts not closing the gap. van jones, i have to ask you this. i understand what mark is saying about energizing the electorate for obama, but it did not seem like a wise move for the president to put his agenda front and center. >> we have to get the base going. the other thing, we can't let them get away with bashing obama. hey, you know, government is always your enemy until you need a friend. this ebola thing is the best argument you can make for the kind of government that we believe in. a year ago ted cruz shut down
america's government, shut down the cdc over shenanigans. what if that happened this year? you got to start putting the republicans on the defensive for the fact that they believe you can take a wrecking ball to america's government and never pay a price. obamacare means that 8 million people who couldn't have gone to the doctor last year, if they feel sick today, they can go see the doctor. the democrats have to start talking like that. >> but, peggy, that does not seem to be top of mind of voters right now and certainly the campaign, at least the republican campaigns want to make this isis front and center. >> yeah, there's isis. there's a bunch of stuff, look, the republicans in some of the close cases have been very interested in hanging the past six years on their democratic opponents. i think that the president meant to help his democrats out in the field when he said in his speech the other night, i am not on the ballot but my agenda is. well, how many republican
senators moved forward and started saying, that's right, it's his agenda we're voting on? i don't think that did him or them a lot of good. >> we'll see the president raising a lot of money, john heilemann. we won't see him in the close states. as you'll write in bloomberg tomorrow, we'll see a lot of hillary clinton and bill clinton. >> i mean, it's really striking. if you think about the races in play, president obama is welcome in virtually none of those states and he will not going to some of those contested races but be on the coast raising money. hillary clinton is welcome everywhere and will be almost everywhere, and then her husband also welcome everywhere and will be almost everywhere. they can do things, if the candidates want them there as a matter of persuasion, as a matter of getting out the vote and i think it signifies a big moment in the party because for the last six years this has been barack obama's democratic party, it's not the clintons' party. they been in the wings. this is the moment they come out and more or less take control.
they have to put ws on the board. >> they have to do that. >> you can go back longer than six years. president obama came to national prominence in 2004. got elected. in 2006 he campaigned everywhere in the mid-terms, went to missouri, northern florida. he was welcomed everywhere and as john's piece makes clear there are very few places where there are contested races. >> more people going to the poll, van jones, saying they want to send a message against rather than for him. >> he's not as popular as he once was. but he is not wrong. his policies are incredibly popular. you have a republican party that won't raise the minimum wage, that won't extend unemployment insurance to active job seekers who just knead a little more runway. they won't be for fair pay for women. they won't help on student loans so the republican agenda is incredibly unpopular. just because president obama is not as popular, we've got great people out there like elizabeth warren and like hillary clinton and bill clinton to build that case that's important. >> these races are still close, and we're seeing jeb bush out on the trail and did hear from his brother, the former president this week. >> yeah, i think he wants to be president. i think he'd be a great
president. he understands what it's like to be president for not only the person running or serving plus family, he's seen his dad. he's seen his brother. >> so a little nudge right there. >> talking about you can't be seen anywhere. that's somebody who can't be seen anywhere. >> go out there. >> oh. it's going up. >> jeb bush, he seems to be holding back a little bit. >> this was the first time the interview with former president george w. bush that i thought, geez, maybe jeb is going to go forward. i had been feeling his ambivalence. may i say, van, i think the story of next month's election is on the republican side. the past six years didn't work. and on the democratic side, ha, ha, we're not sure the past six years worked. let's look at hillary and bill. that i think is the undermeaning of all of it. >> you guys nodding your head when peggy was talking about jeb. >> well, they're polite. >> i've got a piece about jeb
coming about where he stands. it's funny, this week he was impressing on the campaign trail. there are those who say he's definitely in. i had three calls from people saying he's in and others saying there's no way he's running because of three generations of bush women. the reality more simple and complicated. he hasn't decided but he is much closer to running than people realize. >> haven't decided at this point, are you running? >> well, question decide in january. the thing about jeb bush, he can decide late. he is a monster fund-raiser. he is very popular with the elites in the party. he's got some work to do on common core and immigration, work to do at the grass root, but in terms of what normally gets through, elite support and fund-raising he is first among equals in this. >> here's what you got to say. if you want to put competence on the table you got a republican party with chris christie, ted cruz, rand paul and somebody named bush. i'll take that fight in 2016 any day. >> which is why some people -- we only have a few seconds left, jo. which is why some people are talking about the first guest on your program tomorrow,
mitt romney opening the door a tiny bit. >> there is a story written this week, talked to a lot of romney people and it was a very obviously planted story in the sense he had cooperation on background from a lot in romney's world saying, he's really looking at it. i think he's been looking over it more and more seriously over the last few months and i think he's more interested today for some of the same reasons he actually got in the race in 2012. he looks at the field that van just talked about and says i don't think anybody else out who might be able to win. >> that's what always drives people. we got to -- >> the elites and the money men also like romney a lot, as much as they like jeb so that might be a little interesting to see. no? >> cannot decide until after january. we got to take a break. up next we're on the front lines of those massive protests in hong kong. will they turn violent? what will it mean for u.s. ties to china, that and more with our exclusive interview with u.s. treasury secretary jack lew. otest site to be cleared but
but the protest leaders quickly rejected those reports insisting they are here to fight to the very end. now, this all has to do with the people here fighting for the right to elect their own leaders, not just leaders who are from a list of pre-approved candidates in beijing. now, no one knows what's going to happen tonight with the deadline just a few hours away but they're not taking any chances. take a look, people here are handing out surgical masks because they know that police have used tear gas once and there is a real fear that we could see a repeat of that in just a few hours. george. >> okay, muhammad lila, thanks very much. we're joined now by the treasury secretary, jack lew. welcome, mr. secretary, welcome here this morning. you worked so closely with the chinese leaders. how concerned are you about a violent crackdown and what would that mean for relations with the u.s.? >> good to be with you, george. obviously we're watching the situation closely. it's very important that the situation be resolved through peaceful discussion. >> has than been communicated to the chinese? >> i think that there have been conversations through our
national security channels. the president dropped by when the foreign minister was visiting just last week at the white house, and i think we all need to send the same message, that this be resolved through discussion and peaceful discussion. >> let's talk about the economy. solid jobs report on friday. unemployment below 6% for the first time in -- since 2008. on track for the best job creation in almost 15 years but as you know americans are just not feeling it. want to show our latest abc news poll. 69% of americans think we're going -- the economy is not doing so well. over half of the country disapproves of the job that president obama is doing on the economy. are you worried that at some point this lack of confidence becomes self-fulfilling? >> you know, george, i think there's no question but that the economy is moving strongly in the right direction, the jobs numbers on friday were not just the first proof of that but we've seen six months now of, you know, pretty sustained evidence of that progress. you got to remember where this started. when the president took office we were losing 800,000 jobs a month. over the last six months we've been growing 227,000 jobs a month.
that's a huge swing and it is affecting the lives of americans, but there's also a lot of memory of where we were in '08 and '09. the president spoke this week to what we need to do to make sure that it reaches the lives of middle class americans, it's not just because it's the right thing to do but how we grow our economy. it grows from the middle. we need to invest in infrastructure and invest more in education and training and, you know, we need to raise the minimum wage. >> you need the congress for that. that's not happening right now. is there anything the president can do on his own? >> we did quite a lot since the president took office. when i became treasury secretary just under two years ago we were still at the end of the period where the world looked at the united states as having been the source of the financial crisis renn just two weeks ago i met with my counterparts at the g-20 meeting, and they ask how do you have the resilience to bounce back? we make policy and made tough decisions beginning at the start
of the administration that have caused the growth, helped to drive the growth in the economy. we have more policy that we need to do, and nobody should write off the next two years. nobody should expect that we're not going to get more done in the next two years. >> i want to talk about a scary cyberattack this week. jpmorgan revealing that 83 million households and businesses had their personal data compromised. "the new york times" reports that about nine other financial institutions also had similar breaches, and they point the finger at hackers from russia, even suggesting there may be ties to the russian government. is that the case? >> look, george, the jpmorgan incident is under investigation and i'm not going to comment specifically on that, but i will say this, george, you know, we have made enormous efforts to bring attention to this and resources to this. the president has taken action through an executive order. i've spoken to it publicly as recently as this summer in new york and met with ceos in the financial sector quite financial sector quite regularly
since becoming secretary. they're taking it seriously. i don't think there's a ceo in the financial sector that doesn't wake up in the morning with this on their mind. now, the fact of the matter is that cyberattacks don't have to come from big, well-organized forces. you know, one smart person and one bad person can do an awful lot of damage. it's something that we have to pay attention to every day. we still need legislation to make it easier for the industry to cooperate, and one thing i will just caution is some of the things i've read confuse factors. attacks are not the same as getting into a system, and i think that some of the reports are confusing the two. >> so, no concern about the russian government? >> look, we have a lot of concerns about the sources of attacks because there are many different sources, but i am not going to comment on the specifics in jpmorgan. >> nfl has been under a lot of scrutiny as well including the fact they still are considered a nonprofit, the nfl, for tax purposes even though they take in about $10 billion in annual revenue. is that justified? i mean baseball isn't a nonprofit anymore. the nba isn't. >> so i will say that i've --
like everyone else, paid attention to what's going on in the nfl recently. i haven't paid attention to their tax status so i can't comment specifically on it. you know, the question of how they're organized is a question of whether they meet the legal requirements and that's something that i -- >> some members of congress are calling for it to be taken away. >> look, i think that what clearly is an order is to do some soul searching about some of the things going on. >> mr. secretary, thanks very much for your time this morning. >> good to be with you, george. >> we'll be back with america's newest war memorial after this from our abc stations. k it out hey get that sign back up ♪when it gets cold and it feels like the end♪ (sndfx: clapping) ♪there's no place to go you know i won't give in♪ (sndfx: clapping) ♪no, i won't give in ♪keep holding on ♪caues ya know we'll make it through♪
in this week's sunday in this week's "sunday spotlight," a new honor for america's wounded warriors. so many of our veterans coming home disabled from afghanistan and iraq, injuries both visible and invisible, and today the first memorial for all u.s. troops disabled in combat is opening in washington. abc's bob woodruff has the story. >> reporter: there are many monuments for soldiers who paid the ultimate price for america. but for those who have returned wounded from the war, this new tribute, two acres of glass and granite, is theirs. >> this is a memorial to living disabled veterans. it's the first and only of its type in washington. >> reporter: when we memorialize, when we give honor to those that we lost in the wars, those who died, it's looking back, but this is more looking forward. >> we have to remember that when you come home from war, your battle is just beginning. it's going to last the rest of your life.
and someone has to be there to take care. >> reporter: art wilson co-founded the group that built the memorial and is a disabled veteran who served in vietnam. there are nearly 4 million veterans suffering from wounds today, and this weekend, hundreds of them have been pouring in from around the country for the dedication. when tourists come here starting monday, they'll likely meet park ranger james pierce. this isn't just a regular job for him. as an army sergeant he was severely wounded two years ago by a suicide bomber in afghanistan. three members of his unit were killed. >> you're now in this position where you're a big advocate of this particular memorial. now you're helping the other veterans that are following after you. >> to me that's what it's all about. it's helping one another just to make it through it. >> reporter: so you're all a team now. >> one team, one fight. >> reporter: surrounding the site are glass panels and bronze sculptures, many just outlines symbolizing people not quite whole.
many americans have never met a disabled veteran, insights into their lives sometimes only captured by hollywood. actor gary sinise has helped to raise the money to build the memorial, and he says his commitment to the wounded sparked with this film, "forrest gump." >> hey, hey, hey. i'm walking here. >> what's wrong with you. >> i'm walking here. >> get out of the way. >> i just found that there was something that i could do as a public person to recognize, first of all, what they were going through, show some gratitude and some appreciation and draw some attention. >> now we've got wars that are now winding down that are the worst in terms of wounds in the wars we've ever had. >> yes, and we're going to be feeling those residual effects from these wars for many, many years to come. i feel like all those soldiers, all those marines, all those sailors, all those airmen, they should at least, at the very least know that we are aware and that we care. >> reporter: and at this remarkable new site, they will. for "this week," bob woodruff,
abc news, washington. >> amen to that. we all are aware. we all care. and now we honor our fellow americans who serve and sacrifice. this week, the pentagon announced the deaths of three service members supporting operations in afghanistan and iraq. that's all for us today. thanks for sharing part of your sunday with us. check out "world news tonight" and the new political show from our sister network fusion, "midterm mayhem" also premieres tonight. i'll see you tomorrow on "gma." ou tomorrow on "gma."
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